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Question for May 2010

Brian Shaw, DASN C4I/IO/Space, Director of Cyber Warfare asks: "How could a government system be more resilient to attack if hosted on a public cloud computing model vice a private one and what are the added vulnerabilities the government would need to consider?"


Responses

 

Gregg (Skip) Bailey, Ph.D.

Gregg (Skip) Bailey, Ph.D.
Director
Deloitte Consulting LLP

The public versus private cloud approach will be debated for some time. A key to understanding this debate is to distinguish between vulnerability and resiliency. With any public option that we are aware of, there are some inherent vulnerabilities that must be addressed. These vulnerabilities are beyond the security measures that take place in a private cloud. There are at least two big differences between public and private cloud offerings with regard to vulnerabilities.


Nicklous Combs

Nicklous Combs
Chief Technology Officer
EMC Federal

Good Question, Although building private clouds will always provide a more resilient environment to attack than public clouds if built correctly, there are a few reasons that public clouds can be more resilient. The main reason is the statement I made about "if built correctly". Public cloud providers will normally be subject matter experts in delivering resilient cloud solutions and therefore provide high availability environments at a great price point. As many organizations start to build private clouds, they may not have the expertise to build them correctly and some will no doubt create environments that are less than adequate to meet their security needs. This is why choosing a partner with experience is critical in moving towards a cloud environment.


Ron Knode

Ron Knode
Director, GSS, LEF Research Associate
CSC

Fight Fire with Fire? ... in Clouds?

One of the most frequently used tools to fight forest fires is ... more fire! At first blush, this approach is counter-intuitive. But, the use of "back burns" to reduce the amount of flammable material and (ultimately) control the fire itself is a well-known and effective technique.

The irony of "fighting fire with fire" lies at the heart of this month's question. And, since the issue is equally relevant for both government and industry, let’s restate the question as, "Can we use cloud processing to help solve the security and availability problems normally aggravated by cloud processing?"


Rick McEachern

Rick McEachern
EVP of Business Development
LongJump

Besides being affordable, cloud computing offers the opportunity to run within multiple distributed and replicated systems. For example, through Amazon EC2 and other IaaS (Infrastructure-as-a-Service), your application servers are virtualized and replicated as you need them. This is likely the best approach to dealing with a physical attack because there is no physical box you can locate to attack. Instead, would-be attackers would instead be directly focused on cyber-warfare in the form of DOS or denial of service and intrusion.


Jeff Bergeron
Chief Technologist, U.S. Public Sector
HP

Resilience is, at least partly, one factor in a number of events necessary to take a system offline. A system housed on a single server instance in a single location on a single network – no matter how secure the facility, is susceptible to any number of events that could take that server offline. Conversely, a system that can be rapidly instantiated on virtual servers across many providers, physical locations and networks is able to withstand events that would normally cause a system outage. In a distributed model, servers, facilities and networks are highly resilient and all cloud service providers would have to be compromised to fully disable the entire system.


Peter Coffee

Peter Coffee
Director of Platform Research
salesforce.com inc.

There are compelling reasons for government IT to adopt the public cloud. The GSA has estimated that Web site upgrades formerly requiring six months are done in the cloud in a day. The U.S. Census Bureau used a cloud platform to achieve 12-week deployment of a system to manage its nationwide temporary labor force. The Family Service Agency of San Francisco estimates 50% reduction of administrative time, combined with improved outcomes tracking, thanks to cloud-based re-engineering of mental health case management.


Simon Crosby

Simon Crosby
CTO, Data Center and Cloud Division
Citrix

Picking a cloud is like picking pizza. Give it a try.

There is a misconception that public clouds are risky, but private clouds offer benefits with no downside. While there are legitimate concerns about the maturity of public clouds, where their service abstractions match application needs they can offer a superior service. For example:

  • You can encrypt your data. Combined with secure access control and opaque object name spaces you can make the likelihood of data leakage effectively zero. Fewer humans, simpler, infrastructure services, and secure isolation at multiple layers can offer better security.
  • By virtue of scale and geographical distribution, clouds can make applications available under conditions that would render your private cloud useless, including attacks and failures.
  • Finally, because of their rich connectivity, they are far better placed to deliver applications to end users who are geographically dispersed.

Jim Young

Jim Young
DoD Manager
Google

Thank you Brian for your question as it raises many issues and questions that should be addressed by providers.

Skilled administrators can run Internet-based services in a highly controlled traditional environment in which certain security controls are assumed, but flexibility and innovation on the system are likely to be negatively impacted. Organizations responsible for Internet-facing networks can offer much more flexible services that dynamically scale more elastically, but they also must be particularly vigilant about ensuring security because the networks are exposed beyond the specific organization.


Teresa Carlson

Teresa Carlson
Vice President
Microsoft Federal

The great part about cloud computing is that government organizations have choice. Some data makes sense in the cloud and some data may not. It's not an all or nothing discussion. Security and privacy are rightly the top concerns for most government leaders, and some are far more comfortable housing sensitive information on-premise. That's OK. Agencies should move to the cloud as they're ready, and when they do, they have both public and private options to choose from.


Emily Hawthorn

Emily Hawthorn
Principal Infosec Engineer/Scientist
MITRE

Thanks to our respondents for their very thoughtful remarks!

The European Network for Information Security Agency (ENISA) lists resiliency as market differentiator that will drive cloud service providers. ENISA states, "Security is a priority concern for many cloud customers; many of them will make buying choices on the basis of the reputation for confidentiality, integrity and resilience of, and the security services offered by, a provider." Public clouds offer the potential of resiliency through a number of means including the transparent use of multiple physical sites, redundant networking paths, and the automation of many administration tasks to backup data across physical boundaries. Private clouds can be engineered to provide the same benefits, though rather than leveraging the potentially large capital investment of a multi-tenant service provider, the private cloud provider must fund, secure, and manage the capabilities internally.



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